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John:
> And Rosta scripsit:
>
> > Perhaps you think of lo'e broda as something like Mr Typical Broda,
> > Mr Thing-that-has-no-properties-but-those-that-are-typical-of-brodadom.
>
> Yes, that is what I think.
>
> > In that case, I will retract what I said, and agree with you, but I
> > would point out that "I know that lo'e cinfo cu xabju le friko"
> > would mean "Lions are generally known by me to live in Africa".
>
> I don't follow that. Where does the subjectivity ("known by me") come in?
> Otherwise, yes, it means "Lions generally live in Africa."
la djan djuno ledu'u lo'e cinfo cu xabju le friko
"Lions are generally such that John knows that they live in Africa"
> > that is much much less useful than a quantifier-based analysis of
> > lo'e, which has much greater expressive potential.
>
> But it's wrong. :-)
It's consistent with CLL. We have two competing definitions of lo'e equally
consistent with CLL, but compared to the other (mine), one (yours) has a
vastly narrower expressive capability.
I don't really care either way, since I wouldn't shed a tear if lo'e were
abolished altogether. But it seems perverse to prefer your definition to
mine.
--And.