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John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > 4. Named Collective. The Collective is identified by name > > (cmene). Plus optional noi- and voi-statements (of cardinality > > and/or Superset). > > Is this like "The Smiths", the rock group whose members are not named > "Smith", or is this like "the Smiths", a family all of whom are named > "Smith"? I.e. I don't know what "identified by name" means. It is like the rock group. The plural morpheme in the example is a distractor. "Fleetwood Mac" would also be an example of (4), as would "John Cowan". The proposals treat individuals as singleton collectives. Things don't have to be done thus, but doing them that way leads to a more minimal inventory of primitives. --And.