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And Rosta scripsit: > 4. Named Collective. The Collective is identified by name > (cmene). Plus optional noi- and voi-statements (of cardinality > and/or Superset). Is this like "The Smiths", the rock group whose members are not named "Smith", or is this like "the Smiths", a family all of whom are named "Smith"? I.e. I don't know what "identified by name" means. -- It was impossible to inveigle John Cowan <jcowan@hidden.email> Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Into offering the slightest apology http://www.reutershealth.com For his Phenomenology. --W. H. Auden, from "People" (1953)