[YG Conlang Archives] > [jboske group] > messages [Date Index] [Thread Index] >
bob: At 07:41 AM 8/12/03 -0700, Jorge "Llamb�as" wrote: > >The issue here is whether "lo" = "su'o lo". There is no argument > >so far against {su'o lo broda} being {su'o da poi broda}. > > There was one, but I can't remember it without going back to November 94 > discussions. pc wanted one of {ro broda} and {ro da poi broda} to be importing and was content that the other be nonimporting. The two arguments that I saw were "Because true logical universal quantification has existential import" and perhaps "Because it makes a useful distinction". Neither argument persuaded anybody. I'm sure pc would see that as a confused misrepresentation, but it's an accurate characterization of my understanding of the arguments. In 2002/2003 I pointed out that if "lo brick" is "a brick" (object) and "loi brick" is "brick" (substance) and "ko'a cu brick" is neutral between "ko'a is a brick" and "ko'a is brick", then "da poi broda" cannot be equivalent to "lo broda". However, I prefer to argue that lo = dapoi but that "ko'a cu brick" is NOT neutral between "is a brick" and "is brick". --And.