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And Rosta scripsit: > Is the detective Sherlock Holmes less of a detective than the detective > Alan Pinkerton [or some other RL detective]? I think this question smells of essentialism, and I wish to reformulate it as follows: Does the state of affairs "Sherlock Holmes detects" constitute less of a *detection* than the state of affairs "Alan Pinkerton detects"? To which I answer No. > But all Nick meant was that "ro nu broda cu fasnu", i.e. > "every nu-event happens". The "truly in the world" bit is just > implicit in all nonintensional predicates. The disagreement is > about whether nu should be allowed to be an intensional predicate, > given that Lojban has no others. I think that fasnu is something of a meta-predicate, which says about events (construed as abstractions, not as points in space-time or the like) that they belong to the real world or don't belong to it. Its role are analogous to the role of ckaji, which is a meta-predicate saying whether something has or doesn't have a certain property. The property "\x.x is a unicorn" exists (that is, can be the value of a quantified variable) independently of whether it se ckaji anything. Just so, the event "Sherlock Holmes detects" can be the value of a quantified variable independently of whether there is a Sherlock Holmes and whether, if so, he detects. -- XQuery Blueberry DOM John Cowan Entity parser dot-com jcowan@hidden.email Abstract schemata http://www.reutershealth.com XPointer errata http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Infoset Unicode BOM --Richard Tobin