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And Rosta scripsit: > In reply to what you say above, "three things that are (made of) > water" are clearly being counted, but, unlike in "three waters", > they are not being individuated by virtue of each being a > single water. I don't understand how you cannot count what is not individuated. The question "How many clouds are in buttermilk sky X?" has no answer (na'i), because clouds are not in that situation individuable. (For anyone who doesn't know what a buttermilk sky is, see: http://www.cloudman.com/gallery1/photos/160.jpg) > So, if {lo blanu} = {da poi blanu} then lo does not coerce a > countable interpretation of blanu, even though lo refers to > a counted number of things. I hold that "lo blanu" = "da poi blanu" does coerce a countable interpretation, though "lo bende" does not, by reason of its special properties. -- John Cowan jcowan@hidden.email www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com "If I have seen farther than others, it is because I am surrounded by dwarves." --Murray Gell-Mann