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John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > In reply to what you say above, "three things that are (made of) > > water" are clearly being counted, but, unlike in "three waters", > > they are not being individuated by virtue of each being a > > single water > > I don't understand how you cannot count what is not individuated. The > question "How many clouds are in buttermilk sky X?" has no answer (na'i), > because clouds are not in that situation individuable > (For anyone who doesn't know what a buttermilk sky is, see: > http://www.cloudman.com/gallery1/photos/160.jpg) > > > So, if {lo blanu} = {da poi blanu} then lo does not coerce a > > countable interpretation of blanu, even though lo refers to > > a counted number of things > > I hold that "lo blanu" = "da poi blanu" does coerce a countable > interpretation, though "lo bende" does not, by reason of its special > properties We agree, I take it, that the truthconditions of {da poi broda cu brode} and {da ge broda gi brode} are the same. So if {da djacu} doesn't mean "da is a single water" then nor does {da poi djacu}. Next step. Do re da djacu re da poi djacu force the interpretation "two waters"? No, I answer. They mean "There are at least two things, such that for each is is the case that da djacu". To take a concrete example, "mi cilre re da poi papri" -- "I read two things, each thing is paper". If you retort that "papri" means "is a single paper" -- a countable quantity of paper, I will ask why or whether the same doesn't apply to blanu, such that {da blanu} means "is a single blue-er". --And.