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Lojbab:
> At 02:08 PM 1/10/03 +0000, And Rosta wrote:
> >John:
> > > Nick the Weasel asserts that while du'u is not factive ("it [must] have a
> > > predicate and arguments, [no more]"), nu is factive ("what it describes
> > > truly happens in the world")
> > >
> > > I have (consistently, I think) asserted both within and outwith CLL that
> > > the latter is untrue. The event of Nixon being elected President in '68
> > > is no more and no less an event than the event of McGovern being
> > elected etc.,
> > > even though the former cu fasnu and the latter, on the contrary, na fasnu
> >
> >Is the detective Sherlock Holmes less of a detective than the detective
> >Alan Pinkerton [or some other RL detective]?
>
> I believe that Lojban should not have embedded in its design either a yes
> or a no answer to that question. The answer to that question is a
> hopefully unnecessary metaphysical assumption
Unfortunately, some of us (xod, if I understand him right) want the
answer to my question to be No, some of us (John) want it to be Yes, and
some of us (most of the rest of us) want a way of phrasing it
such that the answer is No and another way of phrasing it such
that the answer is Yes. And you (of course!) want the answer to
be indeterminate.
--And.