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Re: [jboske] Re: Kinds



Nick Nicholas scripsit:

> ... every which x? As in, the cat Mr Frisky can be construed as a 
> Kind corresponding to the haeccity (or whatever) Mr Friskyhood? Well, 
> maybe so, but what does that buy us?

I agree: properties in the first place are projections of classes
(the property of being red is just a reification of the class of red
things), so reducing properties back to classes doesn't help.

> >iii. All kinds exist.
> 
> If you can get away with this, then this is indeed the solution to 
> intensionality. *If* you can get away with this.

That's what's sticky.  There are no unicorns, and there are no
purple (by nature) rhinos, but there is only one null set.
Likewise, having a heart does not equal having a kidney, but the set of
heart-havers turns out to be the same as the set of kidney-havers.

> >iv. A Kind exists in more than one world.
> 
> As I'm finding in my remedial reading of Montague For Dummies, the 
> problem of what exists in what world is very very thorny,  and Monty 
> following Dana Scott dodged it by having the pool of X range across 
> all worlds, without pausing to wonder whether X belonged in world A 
> or B. Intuitively (and I know intuition is evil in formalism, but 
> still), if we have two worlds, one in which I eat an apple and the 
> other in which I eat an orange, it is perverse to say those aren't 
> the same individual. So I don't like even posing the issue of what 
> exists in what world.

Kripke nailed this one in "Naming and Necessity", which should definitely
form part of remedial reading.  Xworld identification is a non-issue, because
it presumes an incorrect (and in fact meaningless) model of possible worlds.
We don't scan possible worlds as with a telescope, we create them by
talking about pivotal individuals (you in this case).

> And it so overwhelmingly breaks with the existing understanding of 
> {lo broda = pa lo selci be loi broda} that I will vote against it.

+1

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John Cowan       http://www.ccil.org/~cowan        <jcowan@hidden.email>
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        You spigotty anglease?  Nnn.  You phonio saxo?  Nnnn.
                Clear all so!  `Tis a Jute.... (Finnegans Wake 16.5)