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At 10:19 PM 1/5/03 +0000, And Rosta wrote:
The following facts are incompatible: {lo blanu} means "da poi is-a-countable-blue-thing". {ti blanu} means "this is blue", not "this is-a-countable-blue-thing".
Beating Nora to the punch, we can argue about gadri all you want, but when you turn to predicates themselves, you need to also be considering the verbal reading. Thus {lo blanu} means "da such that [it/they] blue[s]" (meaning that countability disappears as an issue).
{ti blanu} means "this blues", not "this is-a-countable-blue-thing".Now if pa blanu = pa lo blanu = pa da poi blanu = "one thing such that it blues" you have implied countability to the extent that "one" is meaningful as a quantifier. But until you have an explicit quantifier, you don't necessarily have countability implied
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