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Re: [jboske] factivity of djuno (was: RE: Gaps and Ungaps



On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:08:02PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, John Cowan wrote:
> 
> > Invent Yourself scripsit:
> >
> > > This means that djuno contains two claims: by. jinvi cy., and mi jinvi cy.
> > > Just like in English. Blech. And then djuno4 is useless: it's always tu'a
> > > mi
> >
> > Well, in one sense, but I conceive the point of d4 to be to distinguish
> > which of multiple possible epistemologies I am entertaining.  Perhaps I
> > distinguish physical and theological truth, e.g. (NOMA).
> 
> Which means I *can* say mi zgana le za'i le'e xriso seljda cu djuno ko'a
> goi le du'u le nu nalspeni gletu cu xlali .i ku'i mi na jinvi ja krici
> ko'a, which is really all I wanted.

I think you can't.

To me the multiple epistemologies allow for things like explaining
whether you arrived at your conclusions using only constructive
proof or whether you allowed reducio, what kind of system you used
for the reasoning, etc.  To me, theology doesn't count as reason,
and no one can djuno anything about it, only krici/jinvi/se mallijda.

-- 
Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email
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                                     sei la mark. tuen. cusku

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