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Jordan DeLong writes an admirable post, but then undercuts it with: > [1] even in fuzzy logics this has nothing to do with anything. My > understanding is that a logic with infinite truth values ranging > 0-1 considers the value of the expression to be a measure of our > certainty of its truth (or whatever). No, certainty is neither here nor there; it is "truthishness" that's at stake. A better way to view it is to map all talk of truth into talk of set membership: a car is blue iff it belongs to the set of blue things. Now we can understand a fuzzy-logic claim that "the car is blue" being 90% true by mapping it to a fuzzy-set-theory claim that the car 90% belongs to the set of blue things. Certainly the numerical intensity of the blueness is irrelevant, you're right about that. -- John Cowan jcowan@hidden.email http://www.reutershealth.com "Mr. Lane, if you ever wish anything that I can do, all you will have to do will be to send me a telegram asking and it will be done." "Mr. Hearst, if you ever get a telegram from me asking you to do anything, you can put the telegram down as a forgery."