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Re: [jboske] Re: poi'i, se/te/ve ka



On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:04:54PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> Jordan DeLong writes an admirable post, but then undercuts it with:
> 
> > [1] even in fuzzy logics this has nothing to do with anything.  My
> > understanding is that a logic with infinite truth values ranging
> > 0-1 considers the value of the expression to be a measure of our
> > certainty of its truth (or whatever).  
> 
> No, certainty is neither here nor there; it is "truthishness" that's
> at stake.  A better way to view it is to map all talk of truth into
> talk of set membership: a car is blue iff it belongs to the set of blue
> things.  Now we can understand a fuzzy-logic claim that "the car is blue"
> being 90% true by mapping it to a fuzzy-set-theory claim that the car
> 90% belongs to the set of blue things.

I think this probably depends on which system.  McCawley describes
a fuzzy logic in which things are based on certainty.  He's also
not very rigorous about things though, and it's all second hand
descriptions---I understand what you're saying, that in a real fuzzy
logic system it's possible to view relations as fuzzy sets (as they
are sets in normal logic) and treat set membership as the more
primative concept.  I dunno much of anything about fuzzy logic other
than a few second-hand readings, so ... I dunno. :)

This all gets off the real point, though, which was:
> Certainly the numerical intensity of the blueness is irrelevant, you're
> right about that.

-- 
Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email
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                                     sei la mark. tuen. cusku

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