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#All of these back-counting devices are psychologically unlikely to work.
#They need, at best, back referring that picks out the right thing without
#intermediate processing. Since the cases where this sort of problem arises
#with {ke'a} and {ce'u} ought to be few (it is easier tofigure out another way
#to sait than to figure out how to say it this way), this is not a major
#problem, but a general solution would be useful. Replacing {ke'a} with
#ordinary anaphora seems to work in the given case, but is not obviously a
#general solution
The solution I described in my original message is a general solution
(ke'a/ce'u goi ko'a zo'u): viz., ke'a/ce'u belong to the localmost candidate bridi they occur in.
I agree that backcounting is nightmarish if it's not made fundamental to the language.
--And.