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Re: [jboske] scope issues



In a message dated 10/16/2002 10:58:25 AM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hidden.email writes:

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2- I assume that:

(2a)     lo cipni cu blabi gi'e na vofli

therefore expands as:

(2b)     su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da blabi gi da na vofli

If this is correct, here we have a {na} (in 2a) that does not export to the
first place in the
prenex. In 2b it does, because there is a prenex after gi:

(2b)     su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da blabi gi naku zo'u da vofli

>>
While this looks right, I am not sure how it works.  For example, is 2a significantly different from 
(2a')   lo cipni cu blabi gi'enai vofli
or is (2c) from
(2c')  su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da blabi ginai da vofli?
And similarly for
<<
(3a)     lo cipni cu na vofli gi'e blabi

expands to:

(3b)     su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da na vofli gi da blabi

and not to:

(3c)     naku su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da vofli gi da blabi
>>
as opposed to
(3a')   lo cipni cu vofli nagi'e blabi

<<
I'm assuming {(na vofli) gi'e (blabi)} and not {na (vofli gi'e blabi}.
I believe this is how the parser would group it, though that is no
guarantee of anything.
>>
It is what the parser does, but, asyou say, that does not mean nearly as much as it should.
In particular, the question is what is the selbri here?  How do your intuitions work on 
(4a) le cipni cu na vofli je blabi
and
(4b) le cipni cu blabi jenai vofli?