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la pycyn. cusku di'e > Whether it is referentially transparent or not depends on the sumti, but once > we can get a connection to the referent of the sumti (and we always can) {me} > is a waste of a good cmavo. JCB had it right originally and it was foolish > (not to mention superfluous) to have changed it. {me} should be the brivla > relativized in {pe}, as intended. Having both 'me' and 'du' is probably redundant, but the relativized 'pe' (I suppose that that's the bridiized 'pe') is better handled with 'me ko'a moi', because it not only allows you to claim the association between two sumti, but also what the relationship is, if need be. (Though unfortunately 'meko'amoi' is often called an abomination for some reason.) mu'o mi'e .adam.