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| In a message dated 10/16/2002 10:01:15 AM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hidden.email writes: << >They need, at best, back referring that picks out the right thing without >> On the contrary, it is the natural way to do it -- see the English and just about any other language you want , including the logification of the Lojban. << ). And it >doesn't help at all, obviously, for the {ce'u} cases. I don't see the obviously. For me, {ce'u} hangs as much from a prenex as {ke'a}, so they can always be goied to a ko'a-series variable. In both cases the problem is that it requires forethought, but it seems to be a pretty general solution. >> {ce'u}, by definition, does not have an antecedent as {ke'a} does by definition. So {ce'u} cannot be replaced by a reference back to that antecedent. It can, of course, be replaced by an anaphora of {ce'u} itself -- and this is th way it seems to ahve been handled in the few existing cases (or, of course, since we knew what kind of case it was beforehand, by {goi} assignment). (As obscure as "hangs from a prenex" is (is bound by something outside?, is a transcendental quantifier?, ...?), I suspect you are mistaking the logic of the item with the particular use it is put to -- all those {{frica} cases confuse the issues.) |