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On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote: > > If we wished to use this, I would reorder the argument places of "ckj" and allow it to take a variable number of arguments. I had proposed the same thing in a previous discussion with And, but reducing it to ck-, which covers both "ckaji" and "ckini" (and all the rest that Lojban doesn't have). > la fa glro'e ckja. > "The situation in which something is hot is true." > "It's true that something is hot." > > la fake glre li fgri ckjaki. > "The property of hotness makes a true proposition when applied to the fire." > "Being hot is true for fire". Yes. > I also think "bridi" can also be absorbed; that would be just a fV ckj-, would it not? I think with "bridi" the speaker is not actually claiming that the x1 of bridi is true, just that it is a proposition with such and such as selbri and such and such as arguments. So I don't think bridi is equivalent to ckaji/jetnu/fasnu. co ma'a xrxe