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Re: [engelang] Re: Engelang phonology chat



John Cowan, On 28/08/2012 21:36:
Mike S. scripsit:

That'd be a good choice if Lojban rules didn't declare [y] declare a
variant of /i/.  Rounding is defined as nondistinctive in Lojban, so I
believe that /1/ and its rounded variant are the only choices enjoying a
significant chunk of vowel space.

What's worse is that the whole of North America and parts of the U.K. are
steadily moving /u/ forward toward [y], generation by generation.
Ghosts no longer say [bu:]; they now say [bu\:], and fairly shortly it
may well be [by:] outright.

There are very few parts of the UK where it's still [u] and in some parts it's already [y]. As for filling the gap vacated by GOOSE, some dialects pretty much have _too_ [ty], _tool, tall_ [tu].

--And.