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--- In romconlang@yahoogroups.com, Padraic Brown <elemtilas@...> wrote: > > --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Adam Walker <carraxan@...> wrote: > > >I'm trying to decide on the Carraxan words for smith, blacksmith, > >goldsmith, silversmith, coppersmith, tinsmith/tinker, etc. and I'm having > >trouble finding some of the Latin terms -- specifically silver~, and tin~ > >but also the general term smith. > > Faber seems to be the general word for smith. > > Andrews & Freund give "vascularius" (a little vessel maker) for > "whitesmith, goldsmith, etc." Argentarius for silversmith. Aurarius for > goldsmith. Excusor for coppersmith. Aerarius for bronzesmith. I wonder why coppersmith has such a different ending? Since copper is the original smithing metal. Uchunatonc (Fortunatian): bronzesmith - erarync; coppersmith - ocxuxaurync ; ferrier (horsesmith) - urarync; goldsmith - aurarync; silversmith - ortarync; smith (in general) - huabrync; Mr. Smith (Dominus Fabricius) - Domnync Ubricync > > See "A copious and critical Latin-English lexicon" at Google Books. It's > searchable! Neato! > > >What do the various Romance languages do with these terms? Are they > >generally inherited words, (semi-)learned borrowings from Latin, borrowed > >from outside the family or internal coinings? > > >I'm somewhat crippled ATM since all my vast collection of dictionaries are > >in storage until such time as I have my own place again. > > >If Carraxan were to borrow any of these terms, the most likely sources > >would be Greek or Arabic (though I suppose something might survive from >the Punic substrait, though that seems unlikely). > > >Also, I notice that Latin has ferrarius for blacksmith and aerarius for > >coppersmith, but instead of the expected aurarius, for goldsmith has > >aurifex. Does the ~arius form exist alongside as a vulgarism? Do ~fex > >froms exist for the others as (?)poetic varients? > > The above dictionary has both aurarius and aurifex. I think ferrarius > is more specifically an equine smith. > > > All input welcome. > > Padraic > > > Adam >