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--- In jboske@yahoogroups.com, Jorge "Llambías" <jjllambias2000@y...> wrote: > > > An optional addition to XS (but not to be considered as a part of > the basic proposal) is to use loi/lei for {lo tu'o}/{le tu'o}, i.e. for > Substance, so xodium would be {loi marjrxodiumu} with no need to > glork the inner tu'o. I was wondering why something like this wasn't worked-on before. Since the major proposals so far focus mainly, some almost exclusively, on lo and le, why bring the other gadri into the picture? I for one actually figured that {loi} would be good for Kind, or Mister, or whatever, leaving {lo} still to be (potentially) extensional, but unspecified (what Nick said before was exactly what I had been thinking. When I say "I see a bird," I don't know which bird I'm seeing, it's unspecified, but it isn't the Kind. It's *a* *particular* bird, whose identity I neither know nor care about. Not the same as "I love sitting on a pretty girl's lap" with the understanding that any pretty girl will do). This does leave Stuff out of the equation (at this point), though. ~mark