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On Friday 08 August 2003 06:01, And Rosta wrote:
> * pa broda is a singular entity too (in some sense), but is likewise
> sensitive
> to scope.
>
> * Arguably the very possibility of examples like the ones under discussion
> should be enough to prove the existence of scope effects.
>
> * How on earth would you say "Lions have four legs"? According to you,
> {lo'e cinfo cu se janbe be vo da} means "Exactly four things are legs of
> lions".
>
> * Recasting CLL-lo'e into a logical formula would (I reckon) involve some
> sort of "typicality/characteristicality" operator, which would be scope-
> sensitive.
I think {lo'e} is scope-sensitive and cannot easily be logicalized. {lo'e
cinfo cu se tuple voda} ({janbe} means "bell"; I think you were thinking in
French) at first glance means that the archetype or ideal lion, which is an
imaginary one, has four real legs, which doesn't make sense. Another example
is {lo'e ornitorinku na'o se jbena re sovda}.
phma
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