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I sent "JCB speaks!" privately to Nick, so he replied privately, but his
reply is mostly of a public character, so I am publishing it here with
some omissions of the irrelevantly personal.
----- Forwarded message from Nick Nicholas <opoudjis@hidden.email> -----
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:31:15 +1000
From: Nick Nicholas <opoudjis@hidden.email>
Subject: Re: James Cooke Brown speaks!
To: John Cowan <cowan@hidden.email>
[...]
Conflating set and collective would not be very harmful, although a
disambiguating LAhE still won't kill us. But if that proves to annul
CLL, and if we're to sacrifice backward compatibility with Lojban to
be backward compatible with Loglan, I think you know what torrent of
obscenities that unleashes in me.
I think the Kind and Stuff conflation is going in directions I don't
want. If I wanted rampant conflation, after all, I'd stick with the
CLL ambiguity of loi. We want to be able to talk of Kind of Stuff as
distinct from Kind of Individual and Kind of Collective; I reject the
elimination of that realisation.
So John, I guess I'm out-Catholicing the pope here. Very interesting
to hear that's what JCB meant, and even more argument for elevating
Kind into the paradigm. But I will not surrender backward
compatibility with CLL-loi, and I don't like conflating Kind and
Stuff; that's a metaphysical bias (if not muddle) I will do without.
Factor in my proxy hatred of Loglan [...], and I am in all not going
along with it.
The people need to hear this anyway, and I encourage you to post this
very summary on the wiki.
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[ Nick Nicholas. French & Italian, Rm 637 Arts Centre, Univ. of Melbourne ]
[ nickn@hidden.email http://www.opoudjis.net ]
[ "There is no theory of language structure so ill-founded that it cannot ]
[ be the basis for some successful Machine Translation." --- Yorick Wilks ]
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