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On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:05:13PM +0100, And Rosta wrote:
> Jordan:
> #> > > IF
> #> > > (a) {loi djacu} != {lo djacu}
> #> > > (b) {da djacu} neutralizes the distinction between {da du lo djacu} and
> #> > > {da du loi djacu}
> #> > > THEN
> #> > > {da poi ke'a djacu} can refer to the same thing as {da poi ke'a du loi
> #> > > djacu}, and hence to {loi djacu}
> #> > >
> #> > > In other words, {da poi broda} would be neutral between {lo broda}
> #> > > and {loi broda}
> #> > >
> #> > > HOWEVER, we do not all agree on premise (b). Arguably {lo}={da poi}
> #> > > is more 'baselined' than (b), and it is (b) that has to be abandoned
> #> >
> #> > I don't understand what you mean in (b)
> #>
> #> The claim made by (b) is that if "da du lo djacu" then "da djacu"
> #> and if "da du loi djacu" then "da djacu".
> #
> #Depending on whether I understand, I think the second part of this
> #claim is wrong. If "da du loi djacu", then "da djacu girzu".
>
> {girzu} means "group", but Standard {loi} is supposed to cover not
> only groups but also what we ended up calling Substance (or Goo).
>
> Are you saying that {loi broda} does not mean "broda substance"/
> "broda goo" (e.g. "citka loi plise" does not mean "eat apple")?
>
> (At this stage, please stick to what you think the current prescription
> is.)
{gunma} is probably better. x1 is a mass, whatever a mass is. (So
jbomass, let's say). So lo djacu gunma has whatever features loi
djacu has.
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