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Re: [jboske] lo = da poi? Re: events which don't exist do, because our gadri don'tdo what we need (was Re:"x1 is a Y for doing x2"



Jordan:
#> > > IF
#> > > (a) {loi djacu} != {lo djacu}
#> > > (b) {da djacu} neutralizes the distinction between {da du lo djacu} and
#> > > {da du loi djacu}
#> > > THEN
#> > > {da poi ke'a djacu} can refer to the same thing as {da poi ke'a du loi
#> > > djacu}, and hence to {loi djacu} 
#> > > 
#> > > In other words, {da poi broda} would be neutral between {lo broda}
#> > > and {loi broda} 
#> > > 
#> > > HOWEVER, we do not all agree on premise (b). Arguably {lo}={da poi}
#> > > is more 'baselined' than (b), and it is (b) that has to be abandoned 
#> > 
#> > I don't understand what you mean in (b) 
#> 
#> The claim made by (b) is that if "da du lo djacu" then "da djacu"
#> and if "da du loi djacu" then "da djacu". 
#
#Depending on whether I understand, I think the second part of this
#claim is wrong.  If "da du loi djacu", then "da djacu girzu".  

{girzu} means "group", but Standard {loi} is supposed to cover not
only groups but also what we ended up calling Substance (or Goo).

Are you saying that {loi broda} does not mean "broda substance"/
"broda goo" (e.g. "citka loi plise" does not mean "eat apple")?

(At this stage, please stick to what you think the current prescription
is.)

--And.