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On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 08:53:55AM -0400, John Cowan wrote: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > Someone someday is going the face up to the fact that de facto > > grammar of {kau} is that it can follow any question word, but > > not meaningfully anything else, and write a grammar accordingly, > > using whatever formalism best gets the job done. > > Well, "someone someday" turned out to be "me today". > > Despite Lojbab's strictures, I decided to confine the new selma'o > KAU to appear after only those selma'o that actually have question > words in them: viz. CUhE FA GA JA GIhA GUhA A UI KOhA GOhA CAI PA. > In a nutshell, it works fine. I have attached the necessary context > diff against grammar.300. In each case, KAU is bound tightly to the > preceding cmavo: you can't say "sejinaikau" or even "sejikaunai", it > has to be "jikau". You can, however, say "xokauroi" and "xokaumoi". > And of course it's grammatical to use "kau" after a non-question cmavo > that belongs to one of the above selma'o. > > This is a probe of jboskeists: do you think it's worth writing up a > proposal for the byfy, or should we just leave bad enough alone? I am > a little paranoid about possible trouble because KAU is used in both the > main grammar and the preparser grammar, which has been known to lead to > trouble in the past. As some people were pointing out on the other list, kau needs to be allowed after any sumti, not just KOhA. CLL specifically condones the usage: mi djuno ledu'u la djan. kau klama la zarci for "I know that it was john who went to the store." Other than that I think this would probably be a good idea. Lojbab's objection that other selma'o might get question words eventually is a decent one, but perhaps the proper answer is that if/when they do KAU should only then be allowed after it. -- Jordan DeLong - fracture@hidden.email lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku
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