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Re: [jboske] zi'o (was: Transfinites)



On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Cowan wrote:

> Invent Yourself scripsit:
>
> > But motivationally, people are/should be moved to employ zi'o when the
> > place makes no sense in the relationship they are trying to express. If
> > the place is there but they don't wish to speak of it (non-teleporting, I
> > think) then it's a bit misleading to use zi'o.
>
> Fair enough for top-level claims, but nevertheless when you talk about
> lo'i du'u mi klama le zarci fi zi'o, that set includes lots of propositions
> that don't involve teleporting.  Likewise, the difference between
> lo ka la djan. dunda zo'e ce'u and lo ka la djan. dunda zi'o ce'u is the
> difference between being the recipient of a particular, but unspecified,
> gift from John and being the recipient of a gift from John.



I can't agree with this. Once the gift place is deleted from the
relationship, it can't reappear as a zo'e of different scope. I don't know
what it means to give without any gift, but whatever it is, that's what
John is doing.



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