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Lojbab: > (Of > course Nick seems to think that my confidence in him is misplaced > because I complimented him and not And. The difference is that I think > Nick is trying to make the status quo work to his rigorous standards.) That's right. Even if most lojbanists aren't aware of it, Nick is the lojbanist who more than any other is working in their interests, i.e. to produce a rigorous documented logical language that is not needlessly discontinuous with what they have already learnt of Lojban. As for what Nick said, I think his point was that he was outraged that you would judge the respective quality of his and my ideas about logic and linguistics by measuring it against our respective degrees of fundamentalism. I would have thought that he agrees that your confidence in him is well-placed. --And.