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--- In jboske@yahoogroups.com, "And Rosta" <a.rosta@l...> wrote: > My answer to that is that I can say {da poi -is-Nick} or {da poi > -is-gold} (is that which is Nick, is that which is gold), where > da is a bit of spacetime -- what I take to be an extensional thing. > {da poi -is-xodium} would yield false. > What I'm talking about is an extensional thing that is simply a > realization of a Kind. So yes, the quantification is the same, > but one claims a world-specific existence and the other doesn't. I don't get you. Sherlock Holmes also yields false in {da poi -is-Sherlock} in this world. So, what, we've got intensions that correspond to existences, and intensions that don't? But we already knew that: Kinds exist, whether or not they have any avatars. So I don't understand the objection. There are fictional Named Individuals and fictional substances, and real Names Individuals and real substances. Both are Kinds. Therefore... ?