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--- In jboske@yahoogroups.com, "And Rosta" <a.rosta@l...> wrote: > See the message I've just sent off. If we can distinguish between > intensional kinds and 'extensional kinds' -- "that which is Mr Broda", > "that which realizes Mr Broda" -- then all is okay. As in, Kinds of things --- and kinds of avatars? > The notion of 'Extensional kinds' doesn't work for countables, only > for uncountables. That's why I've been calling this notion > 'Substance'. ... no, still don't get it. Sorry. Intensional Kind: That which is Nick, underneath all the avatars That which is Gold, underneath all the avatars? Extensional Kind: That which is bits of Gold, underneath nothing? Help me here, I have no idea what you're talking about, and why xodium and gold are different. Gold is potentially to be spoken of in other worlds too, after all.