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The contention: that "any-x" and Intensional/opaque readings readings reduce to quantification within the scope of some world-straddling predicate; or, that Any-x and Intensional readings can be captured without the use of intensional gadri. 1. It is obvious how propositionalism handles wanting and needing. (But more below on {nu}.) 2. Treat seeking as trying to find. 3. Depicting (e.g. "This depicts a snake"). As Nick suggests, we can treat this as "There is something that in some world (not necessarily the local world) is a snake and that in the local world this depicts". There was already a need for a way to do this in Lojban, so that we could talk about imaginaries such as Sherlock Holmes without having to abandon the distinction between the local world and worlds that from the perspective of the local world are fictional. The two ways that have been proposed for doing this are {da'i} and {ka'e}/{nu'o}. Both are unsatisfactory for two reasons. The first reason is that they mean, or should mean, something else. {ka'e}/{nu'o} pertain to Possible Worlds. {da'i} is in UI and therefore has something to do with illocutionary meaning. The second reason is that they don't allow us to distinguish "For every x there is some world w such that in w x is broda" and "There is some world w and for every x that in w is broda". For example, "For every Danish mermaid, I will write a poem about her", normally wouldn't mean I will write an infinite number of poems, one for every imaginable Danish mermaid. What we need is a selbri, "x is world of which y is true". It could be a lujvo, but I'll define a NU, {jei'u}, to do the job: "x1 is a world of which the abstraction is true". This then gives us: da ro de poi da je'u de is Danish mermaid zo'u I will write a poem about de And for "This depicts three snakes": da zo'u ti pixra ci poi'i da jei'u ke'a since This solution is not always satisfactory, though. Consider: This branch has the shape of three intertwined snakes. It is not enough to say there are in some world three snakes that have the shape of this branch. That statement would presumably be true whatever the shape of the branch. Similar examples: This is the colour of bananas. This is banana-coloured. This is banana-shaped. This resembles a phoenix egg. This is phoenix-egg-like. For these, I don't see any propositionalist alternative to the idea behind lo'ei/le'ei/la'ei gadri, which I think can be rendered as: lo-: (tu'o) le pa du be ro ((lu'a) lo'i) broda le-: (tu'o) le pa du be ro (lu'a) le'i broda la-: (tu'o) le pa du be ro (lu'a) la'i broda Hence: This branch has the shape of (tu'o) le pa du be ro lo ci mei be fi lo since. This resembles (tu'o) le pa du be ro phoenix egg. 4. Psych-predicates. "John reveres the authors of the American constitution but John doesn't know who authored the American constitution." "Lex Luther is afraid of Superman but Lex Luther is not afraid of Clark Kent." -- these can be true on one reading, which can be captured by: reverence cei broda zo'u broda-inspiring cei brode zo'u John feels broda in response to believing that everyone who authored the American constitution is brode fear cei broda zo'u broda-inspiring cei brode zo'u Lex Luther feels broda in response to believing that everyone who is Superman is brode There aren't a kludge, because psych-predicates do involve propositional content plus emotional response. They can be lexicalized as: John -reveres LEka me ce'u fa ro author of the American constitution Lex Luther -fears LEka me ce'u ro me LA superman or, for short: John -reveres tu'a ro author of the American constitution Lex Luther -fears tu'a (ro me) LA superman 5. "mi djica LEnu broda" means "I want that LEnu broda be actual (be fasnu)". But which nu broda? -- *Any* one nu broda. How do we express this? There is no propositionalist solution. One solution is to kill quantification by singularizing nu broda (e.g. by {piroloinu}. A better solution is to use a predicate that means "I want that p be true", which has the benefit of allowing nu to behave like all other predicates in having an extension that varies from world to world. Thus: "mi -wants LEdu'u broda". --And.