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xod: > On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Jordan DeLong wrote: > > > No one has yet shown any inconsistency in the prescription of masses > > Not for lack of trying! Basically the situation is this, in the abstract: One bit of CLL says cmavo or construction C has meaning M1. Another bit says C has meaning M2. The fundamentalist way of rescuing this is to say that C has meaning "M1 OR M2". > > There's far less inconsistency than you are claiming. Some things > > are poorly defined, but that is not the same as full contradictions > > The book contradicts itself on importingness of ro (because of naku > > rules). It contradicts the ma'oste on vo'a and the place structure > > of tamsmi. These are things we can discuss. Whether "lo broda" > > means "da poi broda" is *not* legitimate to debate if we want to > > have *a* language. Tinkerers can tinker forever and never stop, > > because nothing is ever *actually* better than anything else (look > > at how the IAL weenies do this stuff---that's exactly what we want > > to avoid) > > I spent four years learning it one way, only to discover it wasn't that > way at all. You can call me a whiner for that, but you can't convince me > that no other such bugbears await. Why is loi any different? I reject the > corpus as having much weight at all; tinkering is not mabla if the > language is not yet complete. I fully expect lots, lots more as the BF > plows through the jungle. Those of us who have bothered to scratch out a > paragraph or 2 are a bunch of pikers, well beneath notice of the Future > Jbotreya > > I have the premonition that his Lojban will look more like the logicoid > monstrosities written by AndR and pc than the conversational Dick-n-Jane > that's "mainstream" today I'm not so sure. My premonition is that Standard and Organic Lojban will merge, and will pay little attention to logic, while those do pay attention to logic will not be willing to put up with having to come out with monstrosities in order to be logically precise. There might be enough of those people to keep Academic Lojban ticking over rather than withering away entirely, but it would be unlikely to grow unless it recruited disillusioned speakers of Standard Lojban. --And.