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On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 11:00:46AM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Jordan DeLong wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 09:46:48PM +1100, Nick Nicholas wrote:
> > > (resend)
> >
> > didn't get the first...hrm
> >
> > [...]
> > > Similarly, you can say
> > >
> > > mi citka pi ro loi rismi
> > >
> > > and mean half now and half later. Bzzt, your collective instantly
> > > evaporates. you've split the rice in two, you're not eating it all
> > > together at the same time.
> >
> > Ok, you had me till here. I think this is bogus.
>
> I think so too. Nick has forgotten what a collective is. In summary, it
> exists to refer to properties that do NOT exist by the individuals.
But lojbanmasses already do that.
> First, I refer you both to
> http://www.thestonecutters.net/xod/lojban/jboske.html
Your definition of collective is a lot less clear than the definition
of lojbanmass in the book.
> Next, assume that 2 men cannot carry the piano.
Heh. Ok, but if 3 men are carrying the piano together, each of
them individually *is* carrying some amount of the weight of the
piano.
So I don't see what you are trying to get at.
> Any questions?
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