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RE: [jboske] individuation and masses (was: RE: mass, group,



Lojbab:
> >2. {lei/loi PA} is grammatical and presumably meaningful 
> 
> Why does it have to be meaningful?  In the case of loi, it almost certainly 
> is not meaningful.  In the case of lei it is, to the extent that you are 
> using the quantifier to communicate the in-mind referent 

In current official Lojban, {loi ci broda} is supposed to claim that
there are three broda in total, and {lei ci broda} is supposed to 
say that the referent can be identified partly by looking for
a broda ci mei.

I accept that not everything officially-grammatical is meaningful,
though I view the notion of meaningless grammaticality as 'bogus'.

--And.