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Lojbab: > >2. {lei/loi PA} is grammatical and presumably meaningful > > Why does it have to be meaningful? In the case of loi, it almost certainly > is not meaningful. In the case of lei it is, to the extent that you are > using the quantifier to communicate the in-mind referent In current official Lojban, {loi ci broda} is supposed to claim that there are three broda in total, and {lei ci broda} is supposed to say that the referent can be identified partly by looking for a broda ci mei. I accept that not everything officially-grammatical is meaningful, though I view the notion of meaningless grammaticality as 'bogus'. --And.