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Jorge Llambias scripsit: > Sometimes we do need counting with the collective sense: > {oi mi na ka'e bevri lei bi birje}, "I can't carry the 8 beers!" > I could carry each of them, but not the eight as a whole. Yes, certainly, inside quantification is not an issue: it can appear in any of the various gadri. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan jcowan@hidden.email Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the door. --sign in Paris hotel | --Cordelia Vorkosigan