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Re: [jboske] factivity of djuno (was: RE: Gaps and Ungaps

On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Jordan DeLong wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:30:14PM -0500, Invent Yourself wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, John Cowan wrote:
> [...]
> > > I can live with either (1) or (2), so (2) it is.
> >
> > So you're putting a "valid according to speaker" limitation on the djuno4
> > when the speaker is discussing a third-party's "knowing"?
> >
>
> Of course.  Otherwise the speaker would use "krici" or "jinvi" which
> don't imply fact.


The case I am considering is mi zgana le za'i by. djuno cy.

This means that djuno contains two claims: by. jinvi cy., and mi jinvi cy.
Just like in English. Blech. And then djuno4 is useless: it's always tu'a
mi



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