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John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > My own intuitions do tell me that ka with multiple ce'u will be rare. > > Most people seem to believe this, but I think that talking about reified > relations is as common as talking about reified properties. Marriage, e.g., > is ka ce'u speni ce'uxire, and brotherhood similarly. That is why I > originally proposed ce'uda for current ce'u and ce'ude for current ce'uxire, > but was shouted down at the time (IIRC). Had we adopted that, then co13y [1] > in lambda variables would reduce to co13y of ordinary variables > > [1] abbreviation for "coreferentiality" This got picked up in further discussion so I will only say that talking about reified relations is rare by the standard of "occurs every other sentence" or suchlike. In other words, it is rare enough that we needn't worry too much about how convenient it is as a locution. But not so rare that we don't need to have a way to express it. --And.