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At 11:05 AM 12/7/02 +0000, And Rosta wrote:
> >Isn't it fairly uncontroversial that what speakers actually say in > >their sentences is quite heavily determined by what things the > >language makes easy to say and what things the language makes hard? >> If I understand the anti-Whorfians (Chomskyists, in general), then it would> be controversial for them I doubt it. Antiwhorfianism is normally a rejection of the idea that language determines or constrains how we think, not what we say.
The concept that what we say is unrelated to what we think (or how we think for that matter) seems mind-bogglingly wrong, which is probably why SWH is accepted by assumption by most people who presume that language structure determines what we say.
Also, the idea that (in possibly trivial ways) language enables certain thoughts is not very controversial.
The question Loglan/Lojban tries to resolve is whether language restrictions LIMIT certain thoughts (makes them more difficult if not unthinkable).
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