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Re: [jboske] The ugly head of ni



In a message dated 11/6/2002 9:37:33 AM Central Standard Time, arosta@hidden.email writes:
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OK.

  le ni ce'u nenri le dakli
  the amount of things in the bag

=   da poi mo'e ke'a de nenri le dakli

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Neither the Englsih nor the Lojban translation looks right here.  {le ni ce'u nenri le dakli} is a function that returns a quantity of some sort (I suspect distances, but others are possible) for a sumti, just as {ka ce'u} returns a property and {du'u ce'u} a proposition and {jei ce'u} a truth value. 

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Would {le ni ce'u prami ce'u} mean "the amount of lover--beloved
pairings"? That would be much harder to say in some other way.
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Not if that means "How many such pairs there are."
  It is the-amount-of-love function.

I think mucking about with {ni ce'u} before you have {ni ko'a} down pat gets into all kinds of unnecessary problem, and. conversely, once {ni ko'a} is under control, {ni ce'u} raises no problems at all -- except for being kind of odd.