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RE: [jboske] Concrete examples of Llamban lo'e (was: On {lo'e} andvarious "{lo'e}")



On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote:

> Xod:
> > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Jorge Llambias wrote:
> > >
> > > la xod cusku di'e
> > >
> > > > >      la djan cu darxi lo'e nanmu ze'a le jeftu
> > > > >      John has been hitting men all week
> > > >
> > > >I'm not sure that you care why, but I don't agree with either of these two
> > > >uses of lo'e. And I think that the CLL and Standard Lojban is on my side
> > >
> > > Ok. How would you say it without {lo'e}?
> >
> > He's hitting real men, and not many of them compared to the number of
> > humans around. What is wrong with le?
>
> {le} would invite the question "Which ones?", which is probably
> not fully appropriate. But I don't see why {lo nanmu} or {za'u nanmu}
> wouldn't work here.
>
> I guess that behind Jorge's question is a point about scope,
> and with {lo/za'u} the ordering would need to change to:
>
>    la djan cu darxi ze'a le jeftu lo/za'u nanmu
>    "All week it has been the case that there is a man (are men) that
>     John hits"



But those 2 sentences are identical:

la djan cu darxi lo nanmu ze'a le jeftu
la djan cu darxi ze'a le jeftu lo nanmu



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