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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> Xod:
> > On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, And Rosta wrote:
> > > pc:
> > > > xod@hidden.email writes:
> > > > <<
> > > >
> > > > > I certainly won't claim that my {lo'e nanmu} is "the average man"
> > > > > It is "men in general"
> > > >
> > > > What's the difference? Aren't their properties identical?
> > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > Well, no. The average man is 5'9" tall, say; man in general is not
> > > > any particular height. And so on through a mass of statistical
> > > > information. Man in general seems to have only generic properties --
> > > > being a mammal, bipedal, and the like. Xorxes {lo'e nanmu} does not
> > > > actually work too well for "man in general" even -- and is more
> > > > likely to be something acted upon than something acting -- or having
> > > > properties
> > >
> > > How do we talk about:
> > >
> > > 1. A shark that is man-eating (even if it hasn't eaten a man)
> > > 2. A shark that isn't man-eating but maybe could be in exceptional
> > > circumstances (e.g. facing starvation)
> > >
> > > 1 = ca'a citka lo'ei remna
>
> = ca'a jinzi kakne tu'o du'u citka lo remna
>
> > > 2 = ka'e citka lo'ei remna
>
> = ka'e jinzi kakne tu'o du'u citka lo remna
"is innately capable of being innately capable of"? That either adds
nothing, or adds a truck's worth of wiggle room.
1. nu'o citka lo remna
2. ka'e citka lo remna
> > The generalization applies to the shark, not the man. If the
> > abstract/typical/archetype/whatever/you-know-what-I-mean shark eats
> > people, that doesn't give you the ability to apply any sort of abstraction
> > or generalization to the man. Rest assured, the men that are eaten are lo
> > remna, and not Mr. Man. Only the tiniest fraction of people are eaten, not
> > the general Man in any sense at all
>
> Right. But the problem was that it was not necessarily the case that
> citka lo remna. But I answered my own question, above.
tu'o is a secret token understood only by the initiates of the jboske
inner circle, to which I have not been initiated.
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