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pc: > araizen@hidden.email writes: > > << > > Having both 'me' and 'du' is probably redundant, but the relativized > 'pe' (I suppose that that's the bridiized 'pe') is better handled with > 'me ko'a moi', because it not only allows you to claim the association > between two sumti, but also what the relationship is, if need be. > (Though unfortunately 'meko'amoi' is often called an abomination for > some reason.) > > >> > "is an instance of it first"? I don't see any connection here with > {pe}. Maybe {me le ko'a moi} (or as close to that as is > grammatical), "is an instance of the itth" which makes a sort of > sense if we can imagine sets of things ordered (somehow) by whose > they are and then pick them out thus. But getting the "it" in seems a > difficult thing to do: I can't find a cmavo that converts {k'o'a} or > (my favorite) {mi} into something that parses before {moi}. Event > the sumti-to-mex widgets won't quite encompass that one. I remember xorxes discovering this weird locution. As you say, the basic idea of "X's Y" being done as "the Xth Y" is an attractive one, but I can't work out how {me ko'a moi} gets us to that meaning. I'd have guessed it was {mo'e ko'a moi}. What's wrong with {mo'e ko'a moi}? And how can {me ko'a moi} parse, given that {me ko'a} is a selbri and {moi} requires somesort of MEX argument? (I know this was explained first time round, but I can neither remember nor guess what the explanation was.) --And.