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And Rosta scripsit: > I remember xorxes discovering this weird locution. As you say, > the basic idea of "X's Y" being done as "the Xth Y" is an attractive > one, but I can't work out how {me ko'a moi} gets us to that meaning. > I'd have guessed it was {mo'e ko'a moi}. What's wrong with {mo'e > ko'a moi}? And how can {me ko'a moi} parse, given that {me ko'a} > is a selbri and {moi} requires somesort of MEX argument? (I know > this was explained first time round, but I can neither remember > nor guess what the explanation was.) It's a hack, that's all. ME+sumti+MOI really has little or nothing to do with ME; I just needed something without introducing a new cmavo, and that parsed. The intention is that the sumti should have a numerical value, in Lojban's extended sense of "numerical". E.g. me li re su'i ny. boi moi means "n+2th". Ordinary MOI without ME can only use a number or letteral string, not an arbitrary MEX, still less a non-MEX representation of a numerical value. -- Even a refrigerator can conform to the XML John Cowan Infoset, as long as it has a door sticker jcowan@hidden.email saying "No information items inside". http://www.reutershealth.com --Eve Maler http://www.ccil.org/~cowan