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xorxes: > 1- I assume that > > (1a) lo cipni cu blabi gi'e vofli > > expands to: > > (1b) su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da blabi gi da vofli > > and not as: > > (1c) ge su'o da poi cipni zo'u da blabi gi su'o de poi cipni zo'u de > vofli > > 2- I assume that: > > (2a) lo cipni cu blabi gi'e na vofli > > therefore expands as: > > (2b) su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da blabi gi da na vofli > > If this is correct, here we have a {na} (in 2a) that does not export to the > first place in the prenex. I assume (2) too, but it follows from this that the official na-scope rule is indefensible (except on the grounds of its very officialness). OTOH, if its very officialness does render the na-scope rule Right, then assumption (2) must be wrong... > In 2b it does, because there is a prenex after gi: > > (2b) su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da blabi gi naku zo'u da vofli > > 3- I assume that: > > (3a) lo cipni cu na vofli gi'e blabi > > expands to: > > (3b) su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da na vofli gi da blabi > > and not to: > > (3c) naku su'o da poi cipni zo'u ge da vofli gi da blabi > > i.e., I'm assuming {(na vofli) gi'e (blabi)} and not {na (vofli gi'e blabi}. > I believe this is how the parser would group it, though that is no > guarantee of anything. My natural inclination would be to read it as (3b), albeit with a fair dollop of doubt. I think the safest rule for afterthough connectives would be to take the narrowest possible scope. > If this is correct, then comparing {lo cipni cu na vofli} with > {lo cipni cu na vofli gi'e blabi} we see that the final {gi'e blabi} > completely turns around the first part. Very weird... ... which shows that it can't be correct. Something's gotta give. --And.