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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@hidden.email> wrote: > Jorge Llambías, On 18/09/2012 00:06: > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:42 PM, And Rosta<and.rosta@hidden.email> wrote: > >> > >> la fa [we want to talk about Lojban's specification] va [we know where > >> Lojban list is] tta > > > > "va fa", right? > > I think not, tho I trust you more than I trust me, in these matters, > > la fa je [we want to talk about Lojban's specification] va[=ni/nu] [we > know where Lojban list is] tta > > Did I go wrong somewhere? There's no free "a" in "[we know where Lojban list is]" for "va" to pick. I was thinking "je fa..., va fa ..." rather than "fa je ..., va ...". BTW, is "fa ju F1, F2" equivalent to "je fa F1, fa F2"? > >> BTW, I would replace v- by nuk-, to fee up v-& make the kinship with nu > >> apparent. > > > > I thought about that too! But my idea was "nik". Since v- is ni/nu, it > > seems more intuitive to me to associate it with ni. > > > > I was also thinking of jek- for g-, what do you think? > > Yes, nik and jek seem good. Or ni'uk- even. > Having said that, ni & nu themselves hardly deserve very short forms in > their own right. They can be moved to something longer when some more useful invariant unary turns up. > O dear, should we, or shouldn't we, be investing effort in buffing up the > little details that it's so hard to resist trying to get right, when all > might be swept away? Maybe even if the collaborative project heads off in > another direction we should keep classic Xorban as a thing of beauty in its > own right?? I'm trying to digest all the phonology discussion, but even though I see the appeal of diphthongs for variables, I can't bring myself to prefer it over the classic Xorban system. co ma'a xrxe