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Re: [engelang] Xorban Development



Jorge Llamb�as, On 07/09/2012 02:51:
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:26 PM, And Rosta<and.rosta@hidden.email>  wrote:
Jorge Llamb�as, On 07/09/2012 01:19:

I'm now wondering whether vV shouldn't be just "ne". Does the V play
any relevant role?

la je ckfa va mlka prfraka'a
I prefer my coffee milky (to not milky)

la je ckfa ne mlka prfraka'a
I prefer it when coffee is indeed milky to when coffee is not indeed milky

How do you get "prefer it when" from that? You have prfr_a_, and a is
ckfa and also (mlka rather than not).

I don't see how "ne" introduces an "it when" reading.

I was just glossing loosely. Instead: "I prefer stuff that is milky coffee over stuff that is not milky coffee". I think "ne" doesn't capture logically the "if it's coffee, I prefer it milky" meaning.

Oh bugger. I was thinking "ne" was ja'a/indeed, which is in fact "ni". Whereas, you were suggesting a new unary operator that expresses dual propositions, but isn't bound -- right? Sorry.

To prove the need for binding, I'd have to create an example of the form:

la bcda li fghi [je va jklaki vi mnpaki]

Before I do in my ever more sluggish head with trying to think of an actual example, do you agree that this abstract example requires vV binding? I is "je jklaki ni/nu mnpaki" & A is "je ni/nu jklaki mnpaki".

--And.