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Jorge Llamb�as, On 06/09/2012 00:17:
I'm now thinking that this doesn't really capture the "most farmers" sentence, because it fails to distinguish between "most farmers who own a donkey beat it" and "most donkeys owned by a farmer get beaten by them". In the extreme cases (one farmer owning most donkeys and beating them while the rest of the farmers don't beat theirs, or one poor donkey owned by most farmers, who beat it, while the rest of the donkeys are not beaten by their owners). Although I suppose you could do: la je frmra se xsle je pnsake va drxake msta Farmers that for some donkey they own it and they beat it are most of the farmers that for some donkey they own it whether or not they beat it. This can also be reordered: la msta je frmra se xsle je pnsake va drxake In most cases, farmers that for some donkey they own it, they (also) beat it.
Yes.
Here vV is bound by fV. The generalization could (roughly and fumblingly) be that the complement of the binder of vV expresses two propositions at once, one with vV replaced by nu, and one with vV replaced by ne (= ja'a). The binder can then be argument of any predicate that specifies a relationship between these two propositions.Does "msta" express a relationship between two propositions, or between the two values that "a" takes (whether they be states of affairs or farmers).
I'd meant the former, but you've shown it should be the latter.
It's still something that only seems to work together with fractional quantifier predicates.
Yes. So that includes all quantifiers but lV; and fractional quantifier predicates underlie conditionals, conjunction & disjunction, modality and so on and so forth. But also, how about: la je ckfa va mlka prfraka'a I prefer my coffee milky (to not milky) Maybe you could even have la je ckfa va mlka plkaka'a I like [i.e. prefer] my coffee milky if there is some convention that vV coerces a kind of comparative interpretation of predicates cobound with it. --And.