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Mike S., On 27/08/2012 02:17:
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 8:34 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@hidden.email <mailto:and.rosta@hidden.email>> wrote:
Mike S., On 27/08/2012 01:20:
>The reasons are:
>
> 1. The grammar doesn't allow variables to be suffixed to operators.
OK, but that could change. The difference between predicates and operators is only syntactic; operators are a kind of abbreviation of predicates.
It's not a question for me, but I suspect that most changes to the
production rules, even small ones, are going to be declined at this
early stage. There are a couple areas where I feel an urge to add
syntactic sugar myself, but I think we have to hang in there for
now.
How come it's not a question for you? Aren't we discussing what is the optimal loglang grammar we can currently come up with? You obviously have a lot to contribute to that discussion. Or do you mean that by labelling this loglang _Xorban_ you want to leave decisions to Jorge rather than to consensus? (If so, I agree that a loglang designed under the dictatorship of Jorge is likely to be much better than a loglang reflecting the consensus of more mediocre minds, but at this stage we should be brainstorming and discussing, not proferring ideas for them to be accepted or declined.)
> 3. Also, the interpretation and transformation rule would have to be
> determined precisely in the same way ju would have to be.
X-fa is the state of affairs in which X is the case. Is there more needs to be said than that?
I can't answer that without knowing a little better how your events
work. In your proposal, are (1) and (2) equivalent?
(1) la xrma le sme jefe bjra stra
(2) la xrma le sme je bjrafe strafe
My first answer was: "I don't think they're strongly equivalent. (1) doesn't entail (2). But (2) entails (1)." But I was thinking that (2) means that the bjr-ing and the str-ing are the same event. But that's wrong: consider the following, where jmv is 'alive' and 'mrs' is dead, and jo is "or". Clearly the jmv-ing and the mrs-ing aren't the same event. (1) la xrma le sme jofe jmva mrsa (2) la xrma le sme jo jmvafe mrsafe So I don't know what the answer to your question is -- I haven't thought about it a lot, and the answer isn't obvious to me. --And.