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I'm sending this again, as 'my' SMTP server seems to be acting up again. Carl Edlund Anderson skrev:
On 31/01/2007 07:42, Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:eamoniski skrev:I'm probably missing something obvious, but can anyone tell me the origin of Old French "anquenuit," Old Provencal "ancuei" and (I presume) Venetian "ancuo" - all meaning "today"?Meyer-L�bke doesn't list it, which may mean that he didn't have a clue... He does list ANQUE 'auch' (i.e. 'aussi' -- English lacks an unambiguous gloss here...) as doubtful but possibly from AD UNQUE or ANCORA, which itself is from UNQUAM HORA. The Old Proven�al forms puzzles me, as OP is normally non-diphthongizing. May it be AD UNQUE HODIE? I'm jus' speculating. The OF seems perspicuous AD UNQUE NOCTE, but that may be a false impression.I took a quick look my REW and _did_ find some forms like those Eamon quoted in the index; Meyer-L�bke seems to relate these to "hodie". But I was checking very early in the morning, before my coffee ;), and I couldn't quite suss the relationship from the "hodie" entry. I mean, clearly, "hodie" makes sense for the meaning "today", but the sense of the relationship with forms like "ancuo" eluded me. I haven't got REW with me right now where I am, but if you do, perhaps you can check and see what's the deal with "hodie" and these similar forms? Cheers, Carl
I checked -- doh, why didn't I think of checking HODIE before!? -- but he just says they *are* related without saying how! Perhaps he means something like HANC HODIE, since he also mentions a shift to *HADIE under the influence of the feminine gender of DIES. I get the impression nobody knows and M-L is listing them under HODIE more because of their meaning than for any proven relationship. I'd expect HODIE to become _ozi_ in Old Proven�al, but there is possibly some rule about intervocalic DJ which I don't know. /Bendetx