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Carl Edlund Anderson skrev: > On 31/01/2007 07:42, Benct Philip Jonsson wrote: >> eamoniski skrev: >>> I'm probably missing something obvious, but can anyone >>> tell me the origin of Old French "anquenuit," Old >>> Provencal "ancuei" and (I presume) Venetian "ancuo" - >>> all meaning "today"? >> Meyer-L�bke doesn't list it, which may mean that he >> didn't have a clue... He does list ANQUE 'auch' (i.e. >> 'aussi' -- English lacks an unambiguous gloss here...) as >> doubtful but possibly from AD UNQUE or ANCORA, which >> itself is from UNQUAM HORA. The Old Proven�al forms >> puzzles me, as OP is normally non-diphthongizing. May it >> be AD UNQUE HODIE? I'm jus' speculating. The OF seems >> perspicuous AD UNQUE NOCTE, but that may be a false >> impression. > > I took a quick look my REW and _did_ find some forms like > those Eamon quoted in the index; Meyer-L�bke seems to > relate these to "hodie". But I was checking very early in > the morning, before my coffee ;), and I couldn't quite > suss the relationship from the "hodie" entry. I mean, > clearly, "hodie" makes sense for the meaning "today", but > the sense of the relationship with forms like "ancuo" > eluded me. I haven't got REW with me right now where I am, > but if you do, perhaps you can check and see what's the > deal with "hodie" and these similar forms? > > Cheers, Carl > I checked -- doh, why didn't I think of checking HODIE before!? -- but he just says they *are* related without saying how! Perhaps he means something like HANC HODIE, since he also mentions a shift to *HADIE under the influence of the feminine gender of DIES. I get the impression nobody knows and M-L is listing them under HODIE more because of their meaning than for any proven relationship. I'd expect HODIE to become _ozi_ in Old Proven�al, but there is possibly some rule about intervocalic DJ which I don't know. /Bendetx